sh*t people believe

the other day i poked a bit of fun at some folks who believe in a cargo cult, and then i got concerned that ya’ll might think i go around making fun of people who are — let’s admit it — not very bright. i want you to know that nothing could be futher from the truth. i laugh at EVERYbody! all of us. as far as i can tell, humans will believe anything.

A.N.Y.T.H.I.N.G.

by way of example, here is a short list of things that people believe — and this is just the tip of the tip of the iceberg:

– that the world was created in seven days
– that a bird created everything
– that a chicken created the land
– that a wagtail created the land
– that the world was created from birds’ eggs
– that humans are made of corn
– that humans are descended from bears
– that the earth sits upon a big tree
– that the earth sits upon the back of a big turtle
– that the earth is flat
– that the earth is the center of the universe
– that the sun is the center of the universe
– that they are the center of the universe
– that magic is real
– that some people are magical
– that the parts of some dead animals are magical
– that the parts of some dead people are magical
– that some smelly socks are magical
– that some woman gave birth to a child without having sex
– that another guy was conceived in a highly unusual way, too
– that a really old lady gave birth to a child
– that one guy was born an old man
– that you can get pregnant from a bunch of feathers
– that you can get prenant from a swan
– that a piece of bread can turn into the flesh of a man-god
– that there is a man-god
– that there is a god
– that there are many gods
– that there definitely isn’t a god
– that you can persuade people who believe in god to believe that there isn’t one
– that they’re definitely not brains in vats
– that there is life after death
– that dead people will need their things in the next life
– that dead people will need money in the next life (and that you can send it to them)
– that they’ll come back to haunt you if you don’t
– that there are many lives after death (gonna need a lot of cash)
– that little green men are drawing pretty pictures in fields
– that the little green men were invading on october 30, 1938
– that the world is gonna end this year (omg!)
– that the world is gonna end in 2060 (whew!)
– that the world is gonna end in 2240. or 2280. or 3797. (whatever.)
– that some people born in certain years are bad luck
– that certain days are bad luck
– that certain numbers are bad luck
– that certain animals are bad luck (or maybe good luck)
– that certain actions are bad luck
– that you can predict future events from the most mundane things
– that they are rational
– that they aren’t biased
– that they perform better than most
– that they are at all honest with themselves
– that fiat currency has intrinsic value
– that iq isn’t important
– that gender doesn’t make a difference

– that all people everywhere are fundamentally the same in almost every way

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18 Comments

  1. I love it. Just so everybody can have another laugh, here is what I believe:

    If we ever knew the truth we would find it more ususpected,
    intuitively repugnant, bizzare, absurd and unsupportrd by
    evidence than anything on your list. :o)

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  2. Well, at least one of your examples is obviously and necessarily true. By definition, we sit at the exact center of the observable universe.

    Unless, of course, the observable universe is anisotropic with direction-variable speed of light. But don’t tell Einstein that.

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  3. Just give Monsanto and Cargill a few more decades and humans will be made of corn…the great maizoamerican myth. Sorry that was terrible.

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  4. @bob – “Well, at least one of your examples is obviously and necessarily true. By definition, we sit at the exact center of the observable universe. Unless, of course, the observable universe is anisotropic with direction-variable speed of light….”

    see, i knew i shoulda stuck to stuff i actually know something about! physics? astrophysics? cosmology? all beyond my ken, really.

    now i have to go google “anisotropic” … and i haven’t even had any coffee yet. (~_^)

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  5. @linton – “If we ever knew the truth we would find it more ususpected, intuitively repugnant, bizzare, absurd….”

    i agree. i don’t think we’ve got the cognition (yet/maybe never) to answer the Really Big Questions.

    that you used the phrase “intuitively repugnant” was very interesting to me. most people find the basic “rules” of biology (esp. sociobiology) to be repugnant — they’re surely not going to be able to handle the answers to the Really Big Questions in our universe. they’re not going to like it. not one little bit. (42!)

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  6. That fiat money has intrinsic value? Do I smell a gold bug?

    If so, you might be interested to know more about the intrinsic value of gold. Here. Or Or here.

    Not what you think.

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  7. Well done.

    I do want to call you out on one of your definitions, however: “that there definitely isn’t a god” isn’t a good definition of atheism. It’s a miniscule subgroup of atheists who believe in certainty. Most atheists are agnostics, as Huxley (the inventor of the term agnostic) rightly pointed out.

    In modern discourse, it’s become fashionable to mischaracterize atheism as “certainty”, and to misconstrue Huxleys definition of agnosticism to be divorced from atheism. But this strawman is deliberately misleading. I’ve literally never met a human being holding the positive atheist position of “there definitely isn’t a god”. It appears that 95%+ are negative atheists, AKA atheist agnostic, AKA simply not theists, AKA irreligious, AKA freethinkers, etc.

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    1. @ Laurent. “I’ve literally never met a human being holding the positive atheist position of “there definitely isn’t a god”.” Odd. I have maybe three atheist friends as distinct from agnostics. That’s not because I have a lot of friends either. From you stats, one in 20 “agnostics” meets the usual (at least now) definition of “Atheist.” I’m sure you have twenty friends. Are they reallyl all fundamentalists?

      @ hbd chick “the other day i poked a bit of fun at some folks who believe in a cargo cult,” You don’t believe in cargo cults? Really? Let’s see. The bare bones is that our ancestors or our creators have nice stuff for us and we are hoping they’ll bring it to us now in this lifetime. Aren’t there people who believe we were put here by aliens? Aren’t there people who look forward to contact with said aliens? Isn’t the whole UFO phenomenon a cargo cult? And … here’s the rub … IS THERE ACTUALLY A UFO FOLLOWING? Of have I been duped?

      So for now I believe in at least one cargo cult. But I’m ready to re-think if there is new evidence.

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      1. @Lindon Herbert,

        Pardon, but you’ve fundamentally misread my post.

        Your friends, in all likelihood, are indeed atheists, as they claim. But this does not per default make them distinct from agnostics, unless they elaborate this. Atheism and agnosticism are typically overlapping positions, as Huxley defined. Neither position, nor disagreers thereto, are necessarily fundamentalist (?).

      2. @Laurent “Atheism and agnosticism are typically overlapping positions,” Sure. And by and large my own position is that everybody should believe what they want to, so I would actually be the last to challenge your choice of definitions. Of course I get to believe what I want to also. I’d say that was fair. My own choice is to use a fairly broad brush for “agnostic.” Christians put a great deal of emphasis on “faith.” Certainty shouldn’t require faith. So I would toss Christians into the same pile as averred agnostics except for those who claim certainty through personal epiphany.
        One reason I make the distinction between agnostic and atheist, is they seem to me to act differently. There was a study that found church goers went to jail less often than self-identified agnostics. But – get this – self identified atheists went to jail least of all. Maybe agnostics and atheists are the same, but they seem to think they’re different, and that’s cool with me.

  8. @linton – “You don’t believe in cargo cults?”

    oh, i believe in cargo cults right enough! what i meant was that i had poked some fun at some cargo cultists.

    i should’ve put it that way in the first place. sorry for my sloppy engrish. (~_^)

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  9. @laurent – “I do want to call you out on one of your definitions, however: ‘that there definitely isn’t a god’ isn’t a good definition of atheism. It’s a miniscule subgroup of atheists who believe in certainty.”

    good point. i think the only atheist that i (virtually) know is razib who, i think, has said that there definitely isn’t a god. i think that’s what he’s said anyway, iirc.

    for the record, i’m an agnostic. but that’s prolly only because i’m neurotic. (~_^)

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  10. @hbdchick: You’re the Morgan-Freeman-voice of HBD, everything you link to is gdamn interesting. ^_^

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