or just a high-functioning sociopath? (~_^)
take the test!: Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale (h/t bones and behaviours!).
i’m not (or i’m such a psychopath that i lied on the whole test (~_^) ):
You have completed the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale.
“The LSRP measures two scales.
“Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).
“Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 1.3. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
“Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.1. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior….
“Below is the distribution of how other people who have taken this test have scored.
“You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 10.51% of people who have taken this test.
“You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 29.26% of people who have taken this test.”
see also: sociopath world
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hbd chick 
I got 5 and 3. I don’t know what to make of it.
The LSRP measures two scales.
Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.6. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.1. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
With two scores, results of the LSRP are very suitable for being plotted. Below is the distribution of how other people who have taken this test have scored.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 29.26% of people who have taken this test.
@iron zeppelin – “I got 5 and 3. I don’t know what to make of it.”
i do. we have to watch out around you! (~_^)
I know ‘someone’ who scored 4.6 for primary psychopathy (related to narcissism) and 4.2 for secondary psychopathy (related instead to DSM antisociality.)
The problem here is that it doesn’t measure the cognitive differences between psychopaths and everyone else. The difference between a psychopath and a malignant narcissist is said to be that the psychopath cannot internalise.
Incidentally this contrasts the primary and secondary psychopath because the latter is the product of abuse and neglect. They internalise that they are bad because of their upbringing predisposing them to self-destructive behaviours and crime.
@Bones and Behaviors:
“Incidentally this contrasts the primary and secondary psychopath because the latter is the product of abuse and neglect. They internalise that they are bad because of their upbringing predisposing them to self-destructive behaviours and crime.”
Needless to say, I seriously doubt upbringing has much to do with forging secondary psychopaths.
In fact, I’m not so sure evidence is at all good that childhood experiences, even outside the family setting, have anything to do with these psychopaths (and much else).
Iron Zeppelin is either a primary psychopath or a narcissist.
“Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.5. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.2. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 64.41% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 78.18% of people who have taken this test.”
I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by these results.
@b&b – “I know ‘someone’ who scored 4.6 for primary psychopathy (related to narcissism) and 4.2 for secondary psychopathy (related instead to DSM antisociality.)”
oh dear. =/
1.2 and 1.8.
JayMan, people may have genetic predispositions but bad environment plays a role. I don’t think anyone would say that secondary psychopaths are idiopathic except those still confusing the two distinct concepts as though they were one.
@Bones and Behaviors:
Perhaps. In idiosyncratic ways. In the future, don’t just say it, produce proof.
Look back at one of HBD Chick’s tweets regarding what I said on the matter. You will see why I am very hard on environmental explanations.
Mine was 2 and 3 for primary and secondary psychopathy, respectively.
I’m not a sadist and do try to follow a moral/honor code, which however is fairly idiosyncratic. That said, I can’t make myself care too much about people who are not related to me though I don’t of course wish them ill, which might explain why I don’t score low on psychopathy. Probably because my ancestors come from outside the Hajnal line LOL.
A related concept is the so-called dark triad of Machiavellianism, narcissism, and psychopathy. Apparently, those who possess all three make for excellent players (seducers), and this makes perfect sense to me. From what I recall of the test I did, I scored fairly high for Machievellianism, very high for narcissism (as I suspect will many bloggers), but below average for psychopathy. Got to work on that.
@AKarlin:
Psychopathy is all about being on the high end of the Dark Triad traits. Heartiste made a convincing case why it should be the Dark Tetrad (including sadism as a distinct trait).
Yes I’d imagine most HBD bloggers score higher than average on one or more of these traits (especially narcissism and Machiavellianism).
I think some people have both empathy genes and psycho genes so their default state can be nice even though their war face is very scary. Drill sergeants who assume everyone has both can’t understand why some people simply don’t have a war face.
My score was 1.8 & 4.2 aka soldier-ant personality
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“I have to admit to being somewhat surprised by these results.”
oh
Just to add, there’s a problem imo with some of the questions in that a 100% accurate answer would depend on whether you thought the person deserved it or not e.g. I’m perfectly fine, indeed enthusiastic, about causing emotional pain if i think they deserve it but hate doing it by accident.
Since people are mentioning the Dark Triad now, please note that its definition of ‘psychopathy’ is close to DSM Antisocial Personality Disorder.
I chose the middle answer for all the questions because I wanted to see the results/distribution, and I agree with those who assert that psychopathy can’t be “diagnosed” from tests, only behavior.
Primary and Secondary both 3.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 75.61% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 71.45% of people who have taken this test.
4.1/3.4….Maybe a little bit too psychopatic, should probbaly be 3.8/2.5 or something, I was feeling a little bit moody when doing the test. Still clear primary psychopathy, and a lower secondary one. I am not surprised ^^
2.6 primary & 2.7 secondary for me.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 35.37% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 54% of people who have taken this test.
Hmmm…interesting.
My bad!
This topic is of PARAMOUNT importance in our society! With violent crime on the rise – especially school shootings – I’m sure these individuals had HIGH psychopathic tendencies. In fact, here’s proof of my theory that I found in the Newtown school shooter, Adam Lanza. A story on the PBS show Frontline* found this chilling evidence:
“Lanza also lacked empathy, the report said.”
The behavioral traits of psychopathy need to be clearly understood, and our society needs to have more productive methods for coping with these individuals. If we don’t, then more parents – instead of picking their child up to bring them home at the end of the day – will instead be taking their children to the emergency room, or worse yet, the morge!
How do I know you ask? Because my sons’ school was recently attacked by a student with a gun that killed a fellow classmate. Here’s the actual text a parent never wants to receive,
“Mom I’m using a teachers phone, theres a shooter in the school, I’ll be ok”
Pure. Living. Hell. For 15 minutes until my other high school son texted me that he was ok too. I hope none of you ever have to live through this! And for more inside information, I’m sure that school shooter was psychopathic too; my older son, who knew him and had classes with him, said the shooter had “anger management issues.” So clearly our society is paying the price “in lives” for ignorance and avoidance. [Hope this post wasn’t too much of a rant, but it really hit home, if you know what I mean]
* http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/social-issues/raising-adam-lanza/new-report-offers-details-but-no-motive-for-sandy-hook-shooter/
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 50.45% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 78.18% of people who have taken this test.
2,1 and 3,2
1.3 and 1.7. I’m not surprised, I never thought of myself as remotely psychopathic! Good to know. Still about 10% of the population were less psychopathic. Must just have a tinge.
so
Frau Katze, hubchik and anonymous are the nicest :)
chrisdavies, gottlieb and puzzle pirate are next nicest
then there’s a grey area
and lastly a fair sprinkling of assorted psychos
that last probably isn’t surprising given everything to do with hbd is socially unacceptable so people who don’t care much about taboos are likely to be over-represented
Primary 3.8, secondary 3.6. Doesn’t surprise me, there are several world class narcissists in my family. Plus I’m an artist and if there’s one thing I’ve noticed about the more productive and interesting artists I know it’s that they all have a degree of arrogance and antisociality about them. You have to believe that the idea in your head is worth the time, resources and effort to make it happen.
~S
In my family through his mother, I have an uncle who was” diagnosed” as manic-depressive psychosis (and agoraphobia). But I have a hunch it be sociopath with some degree of schizophrenia. Recently he gave a proof of his capacity to convince and manipulate, something not pleasant to watch.
I had an aunt who committed suicide 5 years ago, was the sister of my uncle. My mother has a relatively unstable moods, but I believe this is a general female tendency (means all women are bipolar in my opinion). However, she is a very creative person and has demonstrated this in his profession as a teacher. I have an older brother (I’m the youngest) I believe that he could achieve relatively high in this test. It seems that the schizophrenics genes of my maternal uncles may have spread among my brothers and I, in different ways and variations.
If I have the advantage of having some advantageous features of dark personalities and continue empathically functional, so I may be biased (which seems to be a growing reality) to develop my dark features, even as a strategy for survival, this ‘beautiful’ tropical country .
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 1.3
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 10.51% of people who have taken this test.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.6
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 54% of people who have taken this test.
@anatoly – “Probably because my ancestors come from outside the Hajnal line LOL.”
possibly! possibly! (^_^)
@anatoly – “…but below average for psychopathy. Got to work on that.”
(~_^)
@grey – “My score was 1.8 & 4.2”
THAT’S a funny range! huh.
@flemur – “I agree with those who assert that psychopathy can’t be ‘diagnosed’ from tests, only behavior.”
yeah. agreed! (but Silly Internet QuizzesTM are fun! (^_^) )
@highlands6000 – “How do I know you ask? Because my sons’ school was recently attacked by a student with a gun that killed a fellow classmate.”
YOUR sons’ school?! jesus. =/
you know, i’m all for the right to bear arms, etc. (am armed myself), but if my kid looked/behaved like adam lanza, i would NOT have had any guns in the house (or maybe just one that i kept in my possession). the kid was obviously disturbed/not right in the head. highly irresponsbile on his mom’s part, afaiac.
having said that, as further proof that i’m not much of a psychopath, one of my first reactions to the newtown school shooting after learning about adam was that i felt sorry/pity for him. still do.
@frau katze – “1.3 and 1.7. I’m not surprised, I never thought of myself as remotely psychopathic! Good to know.”
no, you’re not much of a psychopath at all! (^_^) you can come visit any time. (~_^)
@grey – “that last probably isn’t surprising given everything to do with hbd is socially unacceptable so people who don’t care much about taboos are likely to be over-represented”
yeah. also — obviously the sample size is too small/not at all representative, and it’s a Stupid Internet QuizTM — but, you guys seem to be scoring higher on psychopathy that us ladies. are men, on average, more “psychopathic” in general? i.e. more hard-*ss in dealing with others?
Well, more psychopathy meaning less empathy and less respect for social taboos….then it seems obvious men will score higher :)
That being said, those traits do not necessarily make bad friends…much less judgemental and less meddling…
Overly emphatic people tends to be more needy and interventionist, love people-oriented adaptable policies instead of clear rules applying to everybody, and do not value do much liberty and responsibilities (they find excuses). Hell is paved with good intention…
But then I’m firmly within the assorted psycho brotherhood ^^
hubchik
>>score was 1.8 & 4.2
>THAT’S a funny range! huh.
You’d think so on the face of it but go into any infantry barracks and test all the sergeants – about half would be like that, high empathy, high psychopathy. The empathy acts as a brake but they can switch it off when necessary – which is ideal for certain necessary societal functions.
You [sic] score for primary psychopathy was higher than 41.76% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 9.61% of people who have taken this test.
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Ancestrally predictable. Outbred English and Western German (Doggerland going way back). Don’t have that much visceral personal connections to societal mores and laws, but understand why they exist and respect the rights of others not to be preyed or even imposed upon.
(2.8, 3.0), which is 69.77%ile and 71.45%ile. Despite Greek and Spanish (and a touch of American Indian) ancestry, I’m sort of a rootless cosmopolitan.
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.6. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than % of people who have taken this test.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.8. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 63.38% of people who have taken this test.
No idea what this means!
I’m not a psychopath or a sociopath,
However, I believe that those who are behind this test should executed with prejudice because of their latent tendencies against the order of my just society.
I’m sorry guys, the LSRP is a pile of horseshit. I mean, “I’d like to keep pet birds” is not an indicator to anything, since even so called “empaths” rarely think on the triviality of caging a creature that is meant to fly and would decline a pet bird from selfish reasons – lack of time or not liking to clean bird poop. “I sometimes bake cookies just for myself”. What if I don’t bake/like cookies at all? Half the questions here can be “irrelevant” to most people, while a lot would say they’re “not sure”, given the conscience of everyone is “bent”, like “Sure, I’d eff up that person – if they deserved it”, and by “deserved it” it means a different deal to different people. Most Borderliners would score higher than average on this test – depending on their mood when taking it…
As far as psychopathy goes, I’ll stick to “the shrink’s bible”, otherwise known as the DSM-IV. Having a psychopath cousin and having a recent acquaintanceship with a malicious, yet moderately to highly functional psychopath, I can tell this test is idiotic. Anyone can cheat on such a test, psychopaths being compulsive liars surely would. The more intelligent ones would answer what they’re expected to answer to avoid detection. Apparently, most are aware of their “condition” and their “fear” (their ability to feel fear, as anything else, is diminished) is to be discovered. Yes, there’s a gay “closet” and a sociopath one. To stay in their closet they’ll manipulate and gaslight people who suspect anything.
It’s cute how everyone think all the psychopaths are either in prison or on their way there. Why? Because almost the entire research on them was done inside prison populations. In fact, sociopathy is like an iceberg – until not long ago, psychiatrists and forensic scientists had only watched and studied the part that’s “above the water”. Truth is, they’re only up to 20% of prison populations and some 1%-4% in the general population. Here’s another fun fact: their entire brain structure is different from “empaths”. A neurologist, once compared his own brain scans to that of diagnosed psychopaths and found them to be identical… After a phase of denial he admitted he’s “kind of an asshole” and did questionable things to get ahead in his career.
So wake up and cut the drivel, ignore popular science and quit jerking off to “Dexter” (it’s brain junk food in motion). Research the disorder and I’ll recommend observing discussions on the issue among psychopath survivor communities, and yes, there are also communities for psychopaths where they have their own think-tank that are interesting to observe…
“Anyone can cheat on such a test, psychopaths being compulsive liars surely would.”
Not if it’s anonymous. They’d be curious about their score.
The LSRP measures two scales.
Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 4.1. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.9. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
I have scores higher before. :P
Guess what I am not that different from the rest of you lol. this is just a silly test. :)
PS: I forgot this one:
this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 93.62% of people who have taken this test.
Again, I have scored higher before.
I just did the test again after 6 months and got 5 and 3.7. My previous score is the first comment here and I had 5 and 3. It’s getting worse. Earlier this year I had psycopath tendencies but I valued playing the system in order to be able to function without other people’s lack of moral flexibility causing me too much trouble, but now I’m less open to compromise. And I am 100% convinced that it’s because my tendencies were validated by Petyr Baelish and Ramsey Bolton. GRRM wrote a beautiful fairy tale were self-honest people win and people who believe their own lies die. I honestly do not understand how can people dislike Baelish. He was the only one who had the balls to do something about Joffrey while all the highly moral/delusional people like Ned had no effect.
But the LSRP is just a silly test, and GRRM’s work is just a fiction. I should focus more on the real world and the real people who need to be fed lies in order to act normally. I’m still amazed at how easily people buy into a trend like a religion and are controlled by it. It’s so cute.
1) “And I am 100% convinced that it’s because my tendencies were validated by Petyr Baelish and Ramsey Bolton.”
2) “I’m still amazed at how easily people buy into a trend like a religion and are controlled by it. It’s so cute.”
Hence why a culture where the good guys win and the bad guys lose is healthy and a culture that produces “Game of Thrones” is poisoned, toxic and sick.
(it’s great as drama but it’s cultural poison)
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.8. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.9. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 69.77% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 93.62% of people who have taken this test.
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 4.9. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 4.6. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 97.54% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 99.01% of people who have taken this test.
I noticed that no one commented on the effects your culture has on you. I went to University with people who grew up anywhere from an urban ghetto to a dirt floored hut in Sierra Leone. We had interesting conversations about growing up. Most people envied my childhood: it was suburban, my mom stayed home, money was never a problem and we went on a vacation every few years, there were always gifts and food and heat and electricity and my mom and dad were always there, and not once was there war, a burgler, a home fire or any public safety threat (not even a tornado). It was a Kodak childhood. But I ended up being the most anti-social person among anyone I’ve known (despite knowing quite a lot of anti-social people). The most significant difference between me and my University friends is that I have developed a profound hate for those people whom I recently realized are most like me: sociopaths. It’s taken me a year just to come to terms with being like “them.” You see, I despise them. Profoundly. Utterly. And after a lot of reflection and discussion and analysis I think a highly significant factor is who you are around in your culture, who controls your culture, and who establishes cultural norms. This is no different from who you are around when you are a child, or an adolescent. In the West our culture worships sociopaths: wealth, privilege, individualism, power, abuse of those without wealth or privilege or power: these are all traits valued by the sociopath. What hasn’t been studied is how these things in a sociopathic culture can produce countless more sociopaths. The logic is the same: in a classroom if everyone is told to be nice, children are nice (bad ones are punished then rewarded for being nice). In our sociopathic culture we are rewarded for being cruel, selfish, careless, reckless (or merely not punished). I think that I may merely be a more reflective sociopath, but it seems to me that the rising numbers of sociopaths is not due to anything in the food or water or air or the home: it’s the culture. It’s the work culture, it’s the political culture, it’s the social culture, it’s the economic culture, it’s the religious culture: together they are teaching people to be sociopaths.
I’m not sure what this is telling me, but the percentages have me a bit concerned… lol
The LSRP measures two scales.
Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.8. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 4.1. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
With two scores, results of the LSRP are very suitable for being plotted. Below is the distribution of how other people who have taken this test have scored.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 69.77% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 95.66% of people who have taken this test.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.4. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
With two scores, results of the LSRP are very suitable for being plotted. Below is the distribution of how other people who have taken this test have scored.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 93.27% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 83.97% of people who have taken this test.
…Wow
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 1.1. …
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 1.8. …
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 3.19% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 16.44% of people who have taken this test.
I am a psychopath I’m the almost never to no one ever range primary was 3.7 secondary was 4.3 I did not lie on the test , my total score was 93.7% higher than most people who have taken the test finally feels good to know what’s wrong with me all my life I have suffered.
this is the fourth time they have tested me on the LSRP and twice on the OHARE revised and updated test, my psychotherapist says It easier being a psychopath than it is to be normal ! No morals I guess..
@psycho23 – you should have a look at the sociopath world blog, if you haven’t already. (^_^)
Hah. Ironically, I wasn’t expecting to be so high in both categories, and yes, I was brutally honest with my answers. :) Primary: 4.3, Secondary 4.6. The End.
What is the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath ?
@cale ba
this isn’t the technically correct answer but I’ll throw it in anyway – there’s people who don’t care if they hurt you to get what they want and people who *enjoy* hurting you to get what they want even to the extent that hurting you becomes what they want.
1.6 and 2.6, higher than 25.79% and 54% of people respectively. I think I’m an alright person morally, just socially maladjusted.
I got 4.7 and 3.8, not really unexpected.
You have completed the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale.
The LSRP measures two scales.
Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).
Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.8. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.
Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.2. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.
With two scores, results of the LSRP are very suitable for being plotted. Below is the distribution of how other people who have taken this test have scored.
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 88.25% of people who have taken this test.
You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 78.18% of people who have taken this test.
I scored 3.4 and 3.7
My primary score is 4.3 and secondary 3.9, although those numbers seem high out of a possible 5, I have no clue what it actually means in terms of wether or not it’s reliable enough to require a talk with a professional about it or if it’s just some type of silly test to pass some time when online. Can anyone help advise about interpreting these results.
I got 3.9 and 4.2 i just crave instant gratification in whatever I do
4.6 primary and 4.4 secondary but i think I’m normal. I don’t understand this at all.