clannishness

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  1. That is why I don’t much like ASoIaF.

    When I read fantasy I want to escape from reality for an hour or two, not have it rubbed into my face! :-)

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  2. @anatoly – “When I read fantasy I want to escape from reality for an hour or two, not have it rubbed into my face! :-)”

    (^_^) (^_^) (^_^)

    i kinda like my fiction on the realistic side — although dragons are AWESOME! and a man turning into a cockroach (or “vermin”) can be pretty cool, too.

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  3. @staffan – “Sure, they look sweet together. But their kids playing banjo on the porch – that’s not a pretty sight ; )”

    (~_^)

    this instance of inbreeding seems to be a one-off for the lannisters, so it probably won’t cause many genetic problems (although joffrey is…

    ***SPOILER ALERT***

    (…a bit of a psychopath!) the long-term inbreeders are, of course, the targaryens which you can see in their silver-white hair coloring and IMMUNITY TO FIRE! which is a pretty useful genetic mutation to carry, i must say. i wouldn’t outbreed (and loose those genes) either if i were one of them! (no, i’m sure they don’t have “dragon’s blood” in the lineage — that explanation just comes from them not understanding genetics and inbreeding, etc., in westeros. the targaryens have obviously simply undergone some selection against being burned to a crisp — probably as a result of hanging around dragons for so many generations.)

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  4. Neither excessive inbreeding, like consecutive marriages between cousins that drive to consanguinity, nor maladaptive wasteful outbreeding like the contemporary interracial cultural frenzy, an ethnocide on its own. An adaptive culture has to be mildly clannish and moderately ethnocentric. That’s the equilibrium point, in my opinion.

    Don’t like the Lannisters nor the Targaryens, either. We, the Starks, will have our revenge… -_o

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  5. @tomás – “Don’t like the Lannisters nor the Targaryens, either. We, the Starks, will have our revenge… -_o”

    tyrion’s ok, you’ve got to admit! we have to make an exception for tyrion, i think.

    @grey – “winter is coming”

    (~_^)

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  6. More to the Lannisters (potential spoiler)

    The book series mentions that Tywin Lannister married his first cousin, so there’s further history of inbreeding within the Lannisters. They’re all supposed to have blond hair and green eyes, with gold flecks.

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  7. ***SPOILER ALERT***

    @anonymous – “The book series mentions that Tywin Lannister married his first cousin, so there’s further history of inbreeding within the Lannisters.”

    oh, no! (i haven’t gotten that far in the books, yet, but that’s ok. (^_^) ) well maybe the lannisters might have a problem with inbreeding after all then. oops!

    edit: wait. so that makes jamie and cersei both incestuous brother and sister AND cousins. oh dear.

    edit edit: wait. so that makes jamie and cersei both incestuous brother and sister AND first cousins-once-removed because their parents were first cousins.

    AND that makes joffrey and his brother and sister siblings, AND first cousins because their parents are brother and sister AND second cousins because their grandparents, tywin and his wife, were first cousins.

    whew!

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