never got transylvania

man, clannish peoples have looooong memories.

i was searching last night for some good turkish music on youtube — you know, as one does — and i came across…

…well, first of all — who knew there was so much ottoman classical music to choose from on youtube?! that was my first surprise. then i came across…

… (heh) THIS raging “debate” between what appears to be some turks, greeks, albanians, croatians, and i don’t know who else (trolls, prolly). here’s just a taste of the discussion — and these are some of the most reasonable, rational bits of it (sorry ’bout the language – click on image for LARGER view):

never got transylvania

old grudges die hard.

oh. i did find some good near eastern music in the end, but it wound up to be some syrian stuff rather than turkish. nice music!

previously: tribalism on the innerwebs

(note: comments do not require an email. never got transylvania.)


  1. @avi – “Though they do think Vlad Dracul was the greatest ever.”

    i have to say, being a little clannish person myself, that i can appreciate that. heads on spikes — LOTS of heads on spikes — it leaves a strong impression. (~_^)


  2. Yes, Southern Slavs are notorious for doing this every chance they get. The “Remove Kebab” Internet meme is dedicated to this phenomenon of superficially Westernized Balkaners on the Internet arguing with each other in broken English.


  3. Vlad learned that trick from the Turks while he was being held hostage there as a lad. To the east no one thought such announcements of victory were anything other than good policy. Back in Europe he became notorious. The West became gradually more blood-averse over time.(See also, Crusader warfare, which did not shock the Arabs at the time.)


  4. remove kebab remove kebab
    you are worst turk. you are the turk idiot you are the turk smell. return to croatioa. to our croatia cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha ,bosnia we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal fuck but fuck asshole turk stink bosnia sqhipere shqipare..turk genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead turk..ahahahahahbosnia we will get you!! do not forget ww2 .albiania we kill the king , albania return to your precious mongolia….hahahahaha idiot turk and bosnian smell so i can smell it. remove kebab from the premises. you will get caught. russia+usa+croatia+slovak=kill bosnia…you will ww2/ tupac alive in serbia, tupac making album of serbia . fast rap tupac serbia. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of tupac… you are ppoor stink turk… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt

    tupac alive numbr one #1 in serbia ….fuck the croatia ,..fuckk ashol turks no good i spit? in the mouth eye of ur flag and contry. 2pac aliv and real strong wizard kill all the turk farm aminal with rap magic now we the serba rule .ape of the zoo presidant georg bush fukc the great satan and lay egg this egg hatch and bosnia wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. serbia greattst countrey


  5. @hbd chick “man, clannish peoples have looooong memories. ” I should say so. I’m no expert, but I heard somewhere that the schemer’s remark after nine eleven was “No more Granada.” He was mostly furious at Ferdinand and Isabella. That’s been a while, but not as long as it has been since the Tartars came from Mongolia, which remove kebob lets slip as common knowlege. A Serbian friend oncce said the Serbians were Byzantine, meaning true Roman, which of course means Trojan, so the apple of discord is still at work. But it goes farther back than that. According to one issue of the Encyclopedia Britannica (how retro can you get?) In the Bakans Neolithic communites of 100 k, with streets laid out all parallel and perpendicular, with two story houses that contaiined little two story doll houses and no evidence for preparation for war or evidence for local culutral variation or gods except for the little female idols, vanished about the time of Sumer, to be replaced by warring tribes living in little hill forts. As I remember, most of them can be traced down to the present.
    Judging from annon’s offering, blood is not only thicker than water; it’s a lot hotter.


  6. “The UK government is getting ready for a massive influx that will put 2004 in the shade by far…..All towns in the NE are in the process of building camps ….complete with toilets, shower blocks, storage buildings, roads and lighting….not only government, its local and even parish councils as well….planning announcements on trees and lamp posts….We can expect large skirmishes on a daily basis between the advance party of 2004 and the 2014 arrivals ….Watch your back, its going to get a bit rough in the future.
    British Democracy Forum

    The 2005 ban on horse and carts in Romania ‘may have led’ to horses ending up in the food chain, in which case the drivers and their families will have to go somewhere too. I think the logic must be that Romania is trying to develop economically so it is better for a more economically-developed country to take on the responsibility, or it could be that ? just want rid of the English ?


  7. “just want rid of the English ?”

    The main opposition to the EU are the English so they’ve been marked for eradication.


  8. @avi – “Vlad learned that trick from the Turks while he was being held hostage there as a lad. To the east no one thought such announcements of victory were anything other than good policy.”

    well, it sounds like a good trick. i mean, i can only imagine (thankfully) what an impression it must leave. =/


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