hbd chick interview

the ever gracious (no, he really is!) chip — your host of the hoover hog and famed nine-banded books editor — and i sat down for a virtual cup of coffee the other day (mine was the mocha).

you might be interested in what transpired.

thanks, chip! (^_^)

(hmmmm. my princess leia costume seems to be riding up there. i hate when that happens! (~_^) )

edit: also check out josh latta’s sitel’artiste extraordinaire. and he’s a frank zappa fan, TOO! the man is obviously perfect. (^_^)

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  1. Great interview. You should link to it from your “about” page (not that you actually have an “about” page) since it seems to summarize what you do here fairly well.

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  2. @polynices – “You should link to it from your ‘about’ page (not that you actually have an ‘about’ page)….”

    i sorta do … sorta. up top (↑). there’s the “*hbd” page and the “hbd chick?” page — and the “start here” page, which (*ahem*) needs a lot of work.

    i was thinking of linking to the interview on the “hbd chick?” page, but maybe a link from another one (or all?) of the pages would be better?

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  3. “A lot of people out there label HBDers and sociobiologists as “racists” with diabolical plots to repress some group or another. Personally, I want to help people – and I think pretty much all the other HBDers out there feel the same.”

    Hm… gonna have to disagree with you on that last generalization, although I’m glad you personally feel that way. Women may be more prone to sugarcoating (perhaps even to themselves) groups they belong to.

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  4. @conan – “Hm… gonna have to disagree with you on that last generalization….”

    well, i did try to run through the list of hbd-ers that i know or know of before i made that statement, and i couldn’t think of any that don’t want to help people out there — both people of their own group (race, ethnicity, or whatever) and other groups, too — maybe in different ways or to different degrees — but i just couldn’t think of any (or very many) strictly mean and nasty hbd-ers out there.

    maybe it’s just the people i choose to associate with. (~_^) or, maybe, yeah — maybe i’m fooling myself.

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  5. I think my offline history is pretty good evidence that I’m interested in helping people, including those in different races, groups, and countries than my own. I don’t know about the others.

    I do know that the PC crowd claims to care about others, but their actions don’t always match that and the most amazing things drop out of their mouths.

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  6. Excellent interview – and thanks *again* for another shout-out! I promise you won’t be disappointed – have another HBD post in the works (perhaps two, since I just saw a juicy article from the New York Times on my Twitter feed on the role of psychometric testing and test prep in finding gifted kids).

    Link to article here.

    @Assistant Village Idiot: Join the club. I’ve worked (and continue to work) as a tutor for nearly 9 years (over 5 years professionally), helping cats of varying skill and age (from kids to 60-somethings!) and across many racial/ethnic/cultural lines. For me, HBD is helping me unlock a small piece of who I am by better understanding my heritage; on education, it has real implications that can help students if cats can get past the “HBD is racist” claptrap and the obsession with closing “achievement gaps.”

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  7. @nelson – “…it has real implications that can help students….”

    i sure hope so.

    one of the obvious ones to me is that some kids (HALF of all kids) are going to score below average — that’s the nature of “average.” once everybody understands that, and accepts that, we can stop (as someone commented on the blog here recently) setting kids up to fail. not everybody can or should go to college. and that’s ok!

    you know, a lot of european nations still have “apprentice” high schools or high schools where you learn a practical skill(s). some kids enter “prep schools” and eventually go to college, and other kids go to these practical/technical high schools and learn a trade. that’s a great thing, i think.

    what would need to go along with a system like this, of course, is JOBS. jobs have to be kept in america AND we can’t be flooding the labor market with even more unskilled laborers who will directly compete with americans.

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  8. A good interview. Whenever I try to introduce online readers to hbd*chick’s thinking I link to her piece, Whatever Happened to the Tribes of Europe? That’s the one that got me hooked.

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  9. Good tip, Luke.

    Also, it appears that comments are not posting to The Hoover Hog. I submitted a problem ticket, so the issue should be resolved soon.

    Chip

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  10. Love it, great work by both HBDChick and Chip. Linked to it from my own blog.

    Funny that the PC crowd gets to wear the t-shirt labeled “Compassion: I care,” isn’t it? As though playing thought-police and promoting a bunch of untruths is helping anyone …

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  11. @hbd* chick: one of the obvious ones to me is that some kids (HALF of all kids) are going to score below average — that’s the nature of “average.” once everybody understands that, and accepts that, we can stop (as someone commented on the blog here recently) setting kids up to fail. not everybody can or should go to college. and that’s ok!

    This is true – not everyone can handle college-level work (seen it myself in the course of my tutoring). Pushing everyone into college has two potentially serious demerits – diluting the value of degrees and increasing the high overall student load debt burden.

    In terms of scores, not only will many score below average, but cats also must consider things like median scores (approx. equal to the mean if Gaussian but may be affected by skewness). Moreover, as I’ve mentioned before, I support an exam overhaul featuring more low-stakes psychometric exams and fewer high-stakes standardized tests; with the former, one can assess a student’s strengths/weaknesses not just in terms of overall ability, but subsets of the same (i.e. verbal, visuospatial, quantitative). Lately, so-called “emotional intelligence” has been catching on; what do you think of this (especially re: behavior)?

    you know, a lot of european nations still have “apprentice” high schools or high schools where you learn a practical skill(s). some kids enter “prep schools” and eventually go to college, and other kids go to these practical/technical high schools and learn a trade. that’s a great thing, i think.

    I’ve heard of possible plans to have community colleges in the US fill this role (i.e. more specialized trades/degrees, etc.); as for high schools, I think the idea has merit but the achievement gap hysteria prevalent in US education could distract from this goal…

    what would need to go along with a system like this, of course, is JOBS. jobs have to be kept in america AND we can’t be flooding the labor market with even more unskilled laborers who will directly compete with americans.

    DING, DING, freakin’ DING. If only cats today pay attention to this; I *hate* how the some media and some cats are arguing for amnesty like we *need* it (and don’t get me started on the “Hispanic” angle; the FACT is many Hispanics – myself included – are against amnesty). Can’t speak for others, but for me it doesn’t make sense for illegal immigrants to get a free pass while legal immigrants (esp. prospective immigrants) have to endure long wait times and countless hoops. Furthermore, the whole “need skilled STEM workers” talking point is BS; there’s no STEM “skills gap.” Fix *legal* immigration instead of going full-steam ahead on this amnesty crap!

    Sorry for the mini-rant, but the media’s assumption that all (or most) Hispanics are on board with this is nonsense; historically (from what I’ve seen in polls and going back to the Reagan amnesty of 1986), Hispanics have been (roughly) evenly split on amnesty in terms of approval/disapproval. Have trouble finding current stats though…

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  12. @paleo retiree – “Love it, great work by both HBDChick and Chip.”

    chip is awesome! (^_^)

    @paleo retiree – “Linked to it from my own blog.”

    thanks!

    @paleo retiree – “Funny that the PC crowd gets to wear the t-shirt labeled ‘Compassion: I care,’ isn’t it? As though playing thought-police and promoting a bunch of untruths is helping anyone …”

    well that’s the thing — in the very short term political correctness might sorta be compassionate in the sense that you don’t hurt somebody’s feelings (by suggesting that their group might have a lower iq than another group or whatever), but the long term is another matter. i can’t see at all that pc helps ANYbody in the long term. rather to the contrary, it’s more like trying to sweep the problem under the carpet…. =/

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  13. the print was very small!

    from his book site About, “where no cow is sacred” –

    – maybe free inquiry _is_ the sacred cow… just a thought.

    …scientists found coins that show pictures of ancient bulls ….belonging to an offshoot of the Iranian branch of the Indo-European people who invaded India around 1700BC… If the newcomers were making sure that their cattle survive the new climate, it would be natural for them to endow the cattle with semi-religious value. This way people would not kill the cattle, allowing them to breed and provide milk…

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  14. Hi hbd chick. I am really enjoying your site, I find the posts here very interesting indeed. It has caused me to look into ‘in-breeding’ as a topic more closely. What I have come to understand, is that ‘out-breeding’ as apparently practiced in recent centuries by certain populations eg NW Europeans, is far more the exception than the rule in terms of mating patterns in world populations. Also, when one factors in founder effects, population bottlenecks, polygyny, geographical isolation etc. the number of potential populations or ethnic groups which became ‘in-bred’ could be very high. Although it seems as though there may be a positive link between kinship and fertility according to one of your posters, Dr Linton Herbert, the pay-off in terms of improved physical and mental health among a population, in addition to greater socio-economic development probably, clearly points in favour of out-breeding being a better strategy I would say. I have been looking at HLA (human leukocyte antigen) haplotypes for various human populations at http://www.allelefrequencies.net and I believe it might be possible to determine which populations are more ‘out-bred’ based on this data to some degree, although I am no expert

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  15. Kate,

    “- maybe free inquiry _is_ the sacred cow…”

    You’re not the first to make this point. I don’t think it fits, but I get it.

    RE print size, hold down Ctrl and press the + key to enlarge the text.

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  16. @chris – “I have been looking at HLA (human leukocyte antigen) haplotypes for various human populations at http://www.allelefrequencies.net and I believe it might be possible to determine which populations are more ‘out-bred’ based on this data to some degree, although I am no expert.”

    ah! very interesting! thanks. i’ll come over and take a look. (^_^)

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  17. Awesome

    “my princess leia costume seems to be riding up there. i hate when that happens”

    heh

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  18. “start here” page, which (*ahem*) needs a lot of work.

    it really doesn’t – just delete the last three paras and it works v well
    – ‘theories’ is more advanced than ‘start here’ so the link could be in the text.

    i like that it’s called start here instead of about. and hbd is also just succinct and to the point. great intros.

    you could turn hbd chick into ‘hbd chick Biog’ and then link your charming personal statement to that rather than t’other way round – I’m anticipating the biog growing exponentially at the end of some extinct culture’s calendar!

    @Chip @cntrl +

    Yikes – HBDC got bigger too!

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