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  1. re: “the unbelievable ron unz”

    I belatedly found a good way to test Ron’s case. The Add Health survey has information on height, skin color, eye color, hair color, IQ, ancestry, etc. for subjects in wave III (conducted in 2001-2002) when the individuals were 20-30 years old. If someone wanted to, they could test to see to what extent differences in reported European ancestry among Whites in the US corresponded with genetic differences between corresponding European populations (e.g., if the odds ratio of having red hair was higher for those with reported Irish ancestry than those with reported Polish ancestry…). This would test Peter Frost’s position versus Ron Unz’s. Recall, Peter argued that reported European ancestry was virtually meaningless. If it was found that Peter was wrong, and that reported European ancestry corresponded somewhat with intra-European genetic differences, one could then test Ron’s position versus Richard Lynn’s. Recall, both Ron and Richard agreed that reported ancestry indexed true European ancestry. They merely disagreed on whether ethnic IQ differences in the US matched national IQ differences in Europe. Anyways, I thought about doing the analysis myself (because I was interested in height differences and the relation to White ethnic differences in b-ball participation)– but I have been tied up with other HBD unrelated projects (e..g, teaching myself how to bake). What HBD set aside time I have, I expend on the silly, intractable B/W IQ issue. If you’re interested, though –I’ll show you where you can download a nice bootleg version of SPSS to do the analysis, how to run it, and how to work with Add health.

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  2. @chuck – “If someone wanted to, they could test to see to what extent differences in reported European ancestry among Whites in the US corresponded with genetic differences between corresponding European populations (e.g., if the odds ratio of having red hair was higher for those with reported Irish ancestry than those with reported Polish ancestry…). This would test Peter Frost’s position versus Ron Unz’s. Recall, Peter argued that reported European ancestry was virtually meaningless. If it was found that Peter was wrong, and that reported European ancestry corresponded somewhat with intra-European genetic differences, one could then test Ron’s position versus Richard Lynn’s.”

    that’s clever!

    @chuck – “If you’re interested, though – I’ll show you where you can download a nice bootleg version of SPSS to do the analysis, how to run it, and how to work with Add health.”

    thanks for thinking of me, but you know — i’m not really all that keen on iq questions. i mean, i’d love to see the results of this — and i try to follow some of the iq stuff out there — but to be honest, i’m more interested in other hbd differences. call me quirky! (~_^)

    @chuck – “What HBD set aside time I have, I expend on the silly, intractable B/W IQ issue.”

    speaking of which — i know that you’re doing a lot of interesting work on that question — but i’ll be d*mned if i can keep up with all your posts! (i don’t even have time to teach myself how to bake…. (~_^) ) any chance of a summary post from you? what you’ve found so far? a reader’s digest version — in plain-ish english? (i should talk — i keep promising people around here the same thing and i still haven’t done it … yet!) thanks!

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  3. @chuck – “But I guess you’re not interested in that stuff either….”

    well, yes, that’s a bit more interesting to me. (^_^) next question: can the ADD health data be broken down into ethnic groups beyond just white/black/hispanic do you know? i guess i can just go check for myself…. (~_^)

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