hispanics don’t think of themselves as hispanic

from pew’s When Labels Don’t Fit: Hispanics and Their Views of Identity, 51% of hispanics in the u.s. prefer to refer to themselves by their specific ethnic group (i.e. family’s country of origin):

they also don’t trust other people very much. whereas 35% of americans feel that most people can be trusted, only 12% of hispanics think so. and that includes just 13% of hispanics who were born and raised here but have immigrant parents (pew’s “second generation” hispanics):

and hispanics luuuuuv big government. even 3rd+ generation hispanics prefer big government much more than your average american (58% vs. 41%). no wonder big government loves them:

previously: trust me on this and mexicans think mexicans should be mexican and a sense of entitlement ii

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  1. Interesting post and accompanying report, hbd* chick.
    In fairness, as not all Hispanics are equal, I’m not surprised most identify themselves by family’s country of origin (I usually use both – e.g. “I’m Hispanic – half Dominican, half Puerto Rican”).

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  2. re: Hispanics “love” big government

    I know (well, think) you’re going to hate me here, but I love big government too, so I see this as a hopeful sign.

    Let me clarify. By “big government” I don’t mean high taxes for government spending, which, in many cases, can be wasteful and/or highly inefficient. Home mortgage deductions, for example (yes, subsidies can be a form of spending too) or, more to the point, AFDC. That’s Aid to Families with Dependent Children for those of you who were born too late, aka, “welfare!#!”

    No, by big government I mean a fair and efficient way to tax capital in order subsidize labor in order to counter the effects of trade, immigration, and automation on the distribution of income in America. Our economic pie has been getting bigger thanks to those three factors but at the same time the average worker’s share has been getting smaller not only relatively but absolutely, again thanks to these same three factors. GDP per capita has been rising but wages have been falling. We need to undo this redistribution which, by definition, is redistribution too. And since transfer payments are considered “government spending” nowadays, I favor bigger government in the future.

    Prediction: 95% of hbd* chick’s readers will disagree. (Another prediction: they won’t still disagree in 25 years.)

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  3. @nelson – “In fairness, as not all Hispanics are equal….”

    absolutely. all the different groups are quite … well … different from one another. not that there’s anything wrong with that. that’s! — (drumroll, please) — human biodiversity. (^_^)

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  4. @luke – “I know (well, think) you’re going to hate me here, but I love big government too, so I see this as a hopeful sign.”

    eh, i don’t think it’s so hopeful ’cause i’m pretty sure the sort of big government many hispanics like is the hand-me-out welfare kind, not the sorts of things you’re talking about.

    for the record: i’m not entirely opposed to the government intervening in my (our) life (lives) — i just wish tptb would do some useful intervention — egs. high tariffs on imported goods, secure the borders, get the h*ll out of afghanistan. if it cost everybody an arm and a leg to buy an imported iphone 5 from china AND the flow of immigrants (both legal and illegal) was stopped, then apple would quickly be making their products in america by americans, and then you wouldn’t need any fancy redistribution plans. see? simple.

    btw — we could/would never hate you! (^_^) (it’s my blog and i forbid it. (~_^) )

    edit: oh yeah — and they should do something about wall st. bring back glass-steagall for starters.

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  5. hbd chk: “i’m pretty sure the sort of big government many hispanics like is the hand-me-out welfare kind”

    Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t support the other kind. At the moment “redistribution” is a dirty word. In any form. That could change. (Btw, redistribution is a better alternative than protective tariffs because it preserves the gains of trade, which have the potential to make everyone better off.)

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  6. @luke – “Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t support the other kind.”

    maybe. but somehow i doubt it.

    @luke – “…the gains of trade….”

    the gains of trade are made/created by those who engage in the trade. they’re not gonna want to give that up (loss aversion). you’re never going to persuade tptb to let go of those riches.

    of course, i’m never going to persuade them to impose tariffs either.

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  7. @hbd* chick: indeed, it is. As you can probably guess, I’m (somewhat) new to the HBD discussion; this field does provide some of the intellectual stimulation I’ve been searching for though! :-)

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  8. I knew once the Republicans held a primary in Puerto Rico to pander to Mexicans about immigration that they were the stupidest party on Earth.

    Just think, if not for the Nixon administration adding it to the census even those 24% probably wouldn’t even think of themselves as “Hispanic” and the GOP wouldn’t have such a hard time courting this phony demographic to begin with.

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  9. @bleach – “I knew once the Republicans held a primary in Puerto Rico to pander to Mexicans about immigration that they were the stupidest party on Earth.”

    i know. ¡¿could anyone be more estúpido?!

    @bleach – “…if not for the Nixon administration adding it to the census….”

    ugh.

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  10. @bleach

    Wait, the republicans went to *Puerto Rico* to pander to Mexican-American voters?
    It’s official, this country is now an Onion sketch.

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