happy valentine’s day, everybody!

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  1. Valentines day is a good day to debate, from an HBD standpoint, the advantages of allowing young people to choose their own spouses vs having a more mature authority do that job.

    For example, the evidence is that up until 100 years ago, weddings in the Ashkenazi community were negotiated between the patriarchs of the two involved families. These patriarchs made eugenic decisions, by for example insuring that the young men with the genetic material for super high IQ were matched up with young women who had the physical fitness to bear more than a dozen children and the large financial inheritance to support more than a dozen children

    At the same time, in the Anglo Saxon countries, the non Ashkenazi community relied mainly on young men and women to make their own choices in this area.

    The results were massively eugenic for Ashkenazi and not eugenic for Christians. Indeed certain enclaves with 100% anglo saxon christian ancestry resemble the movie idiocracy.

    Given the demonstrated poor judgement of most young people with an IQ under 105, ie the propensity of young people with an IQ under 105 to choose the wrong spouse, isn’t a model of family control superior?

    Putting it another way, what advantage could the anglo saxon Christian system have provided? Why did it persist even in the face of evidence that there was a much better model?

    I’m not trying to debate what system works best today, in 2012. Charles Murray has demonstrated that a father with real wealth has a spectacular eugenic effect on future generations by buying his son and daughter a place at an ivy league University. If he sends them to an ivy, chances are very good that they will marry and reproduce with a super high IQ spouse.

    But from perhaps 1000 years ago to 100 years ago, what was the most eugenic tradition for a family to have? I would argue the Ashkenazi tradition was the right one.

    Contrast that with the tradition among catholics in Anglo countries – the highest IQ boys were sent in to the priesthood. Could this have produced catholic populations with much lower IQs than their protestant neighbors?

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  2. Wencil:
    I don’t know if you’re a Charles Murray fan, but if you are, then his main thesis is that assortative mating is as strong as ever, even without arranged marriages.

    That these assorted marriages aren’t producing many children is a separate problem.

    According to Cochran & Harpending, and I agree with them, the primary explanation for high Jewish IQ is that Jews were a merchant caste in an era when the vast majority of people were peasants.

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  3. @wencil – “Valentines day is a good day to debate, from an HBD standpoint, the advantages of allowing young people to choose their own spouses vs having a more mature authority do that job.”

    you know, one of the major objections that the germans had against the roman catholic church and which led to the reformation happening was that the germans just couldn’t stand one of the church’s rules on marriage and that was that marriage was something between the two individuals involved and no one else, i.e. not the families. germans hated this. it was one of their big issues in the reformation, and they quickly did away with those regulations once they established their own church(es). dunno when it changed again.

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  4. “For example, the evidence is that up until 100 years ago, weddings in the Ashkenazi community were negotiated between the patriarchs of the two involved families.”

    Arranged marriages between (or within) clans has been the norm everywhere in the world for most of human history. The NW Euro system that took root sometime in the middle ages is the odd one out.

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