the boob tube again

(no, still not a post about pr0n. sorry! (~_^) )

i dunno why i like these polls about what tv show republicans and democrats prefer, but i usually wind up reading them whenever i see them. here’s a new one:

“Republicans vs. Democrats TV survey results: Lefties want comedy, right wingers like work”

LIBERAL-DEMOCRAT FAVORITES:
– The Daily Show With Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report (Comedy Central): As you might expect.
– 30 Rock and Parks and Recreation (NBC): Literate media-savvy comedies score high among Dems in general, notes Experian-Simmons senior marketing manager John Fetto. “Sarcastic humor is always a hook for them,” he adds.
– The View (ABC): Shows that skew female tend to do better among Dems, while male-friendly shows tend to do perform higher among Republicans.
– Glee (Fox)
– Modern Family (ABC): Last year, the progressive Glee and Modern Family scored surprisingly strong among both political leanings. Among conservatives this year, the shows still do fairly well, but have dropped out of their top ranks.
– It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FX)
– Treme (HBO): GOP Kryptonite. Not only a Dem favorite, but so unpopular among Republicans that the report scores the show with a “*” because not enough conservatives in the study group had actually watched it.
– Cougar Town (ABC)
– The Late Show With David Letterman and The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson (CBS): Dems favor late-night programming, with one big exception that we’ll see below.

Also in the mix: The Soup (E!), Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Adult Swim), Raising Hope (Fox), Saturday Night Live (NBC), The Office (NBC), Project Runway (Lifetime), Shameless (Showtime), Parenthood (NBC), Conan (TBS).

i’ve seen the daily show, of course. while i can appreciate that jon stewart leibowitz is funny, it’s obviously not my sort of politics. (i’m not even sure what IS my sort of politics!) i’ve also seen, down through the years, a segment or two from the view, but a bunch of liberal ladies (and i use the term loosely) sitting around b*tching and gossiping?! NOT my kind of show. have also seen david letterman and conan, too, of course. and snl back in the day. the rest of them i’ve never watched, and some of them i’ve never heard of: treme?

CONSERVATIVE-REPUBLICAN FAVORITES:
– Swamp Loggers (Discovery) and Top Shot (History): Gritty documentary-style work-related reality shows on cable index really strongly with conservative Republicans. Swamp Loggers is particularly polarizing.
– The Bachelor (ABC): They also tend to gravitate toward broadcast reality competition shows.
– Castle (ABC): Ranks fairly high among Dems, too.
– Mythbusters (Discovery)
– Only in America With Larry the Cable Guy, American Pickers, Pawn Stars, Swamp People (History): If you’re a Republican candidate looking to raise money, put ads on History.
– The Middle (ABC): Does well among libs, too.
– The Tonight Show With Jay Leno (NBC): “Did you hear about this? Yeah, this is true: Jay Leno is the late-night choice among conservatives… “
– The Biggest Loser (NBC)
– Hawaii Five-O, NCIS, The Mentalist (CBS): Popular crime dramas — except the left-wing Law & Order franchise — tend to draw a conservative crowd.

Also: Dancing With the Stars results show (ABC), Man vs. Wild (Discovery), Auction Kings (Discovery), Wheel of Fortune (syndi), Top Gear (BBC America).

mythbusters!!! (^_^) how can ANYONE not like mythbusters? dirty jobs is also fun to watch. (^_^)

leave me alone with a television machine and i will invariably watch pretty much anything on the discovery channel or animal planet (or some other nature channel). the bachelor (or any “reality” program?)? – nuh uh. jay leno – meh. he’s ok. the crime dramas listed are alright in a pinch if there’s nothing else on, but they’re usually too low-iq in their plot-lines. i dunno what the middle or the biggest loser is — oh, wait. is the biggest loser the weight loss show?

one show that i think is pretty ok is boardwalk empire. good acting, good scripts (if you look away from the pc stuff), nice sets and filming. i can easily waste an hour watching that (mind you, if i do watch tv, which is not very often ’cause we don’t have one, it’s not an entire waste of my time ’cause i’m usually knitting something at the same time. i am a chick — i can multi-task. (~_^) )

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21 Comments

  1. It’s my understanding that the “science” channels have suffered a massive decline in quality over the years,

    When I was in the military, the History Channel was really hardcore. When we got hooked up to satellite TV, I would watch it often. Knowing what happened to the channel I wish I’d watched it more.

    The most hardcore rightwing show (essentially fascist in many ways) that I can tthink of was HBO’s Rome. Co-created by possibly my favorite Jewish-American, John “Walter Sobchak” Milius. ;)

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  2. I’ll add to your Television analysis a bit.

    Both of these statements are true:

    1) Republican’s are smarter than democrats.
    (Because republicans appeal to voters using a more attractive economic program.)

    2) Liberals are smarter than conservatives.
    (Because liberals are a smaller percentage of the population, and they consist of a higher percentage having a liberal arts education – ie: indoctrinated)

    See Jonathan Haidt for his work on sentiments: cognitive biases — what we think of the masculine versus the feminine preferences in decision making. Which are expressed politically as the conservative versus the liberal.

    And which behavioral economists express as desires to concentrate capital in reserve for the long term (conservatives) versus desires to distribute capital in the near term (liberals).

    An institutional economist would express it as a continuation of the uniquely western competition between the state (conservatives who ‘own’ the land) and the church (the people who administer the peasantry.)

    Or as Thomas Sowell expresses it: the constrained vision – where human society is fragile and where we must protect it’s institutions carefully, from the constant frailty of human hubris (conservatives) versus the unconstrained vision – where we will solve problems when we get to them, and where humans are capable of anything they wish to achieve (liberals).

    Or as Hoppe expresses it: Low/Long time preference – making decisions with a bias for the long term (conservatives – and adults) versus High/Short time preferences – making decisions with a bias for the short term (liberals – and children).

    Or as Machiavelli expressed it: the Lions who use discipline (conservatives) and the Foxes who use cunning (liberals).

    Or as the synthetic Historians would express it: The Aristocracy who specialize in holding land (conservatives) versus the Religious Leadership who specialize in rebellion against the aristocracy in order to increase consumption. (This is one of the two major differences between the tendency of whites to be more conservative and jews to be more liberal – their cultural biases for creating social orders that land either include or exclude the necessity of land holding — employing different strategies despite their shared positions as global elites. The other is the perception of power and weakness. Powerful groups become conservative and weak groups liberal. Because power is control of land, resources, and opportunities. ie: privilege)

    I could go on with this list to include perhaps fifty or more different thinkers. However, the basic concept is constant across all thinkers.

    These biases are preferences not truths. They are biologically present in both genders as a bias that consists in different degrees in each of us. They are environmentally present in our societies (protestant discipline versus Byzantine nihilism). They are present as preferences in our social classes (commercial, military and middle class conservatism, versus lower, academic, and administrative – ie: privileged – classes) because of the different power and weakness of each class in our society.

    The reason the west has traditionally been conservative is that it has been poorer and weaker than the east. The west is an expression of rebellion against the despotic east. It was only after the fall of the byzantine muslims after Vienna by superior western technology and inferior western numbers, and the subsequent increase in territory and wealth of the europeans upon the discovery of the new world, that created the opportunity for the middle class to sieze power from the aristocracy either by inclusion (England) or by revolution (France) that began the slow trend away from our aristocratic heritage. English historians tend to state that Charles I was the beginning of the end. This was followed by the industrial revolution in england, and the pressure that this dynamic change put upon the germans and the peasantry, which gave rise to Marxism — which is simply an attempt to regress society back to it’s prior village economy.

    Marx was wrong: We lifted the poor out of ignorance and poverty with the industrial revolution and capitalism.

    Marx was wrong: we will never be conquered by the lower classes. The masses never do anything of value.

    Schumpeter was right: we will lose our civilization and descend into tyranny because of public intellectuals and political correctness.

    ie: people who make a living selling lies of equality to people who are, by and large, a sunk cost on the human system, and encouraging them to take political power through democracy.

    We are unequal in ability. We are unequal at birth. We remain unequal in life. The upper 10% do everything of value to humanity in life. The next 10% spread the upper 10%’s ideas. THe lower 80% reward the upper 20% for their efforts, and use the productivity of their betters to breed the civilization back into equliibrium. The upper 1% are lottery winners. The lottery encourages the upper 10% to play the lottery. The lottery is the race for status and the wealth by which to obtain status.

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  3. The motion picture machine only exists for me so that I have some background noise, Radio requires contration after hearing a tidbit so it’s just easier to glance up at the screen of a TV.

    The Tonight Show With Jay Leno (NBC): “Did you hear about this? Yeah, this is true: Jay Leno is the late-night choice among conservatives… “

    Huh? Leno makes me channel faster than anything else.

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  4. @ihtg – “When I was in the military, the History Channel was really hardcore.”

    oh, yeah. the history channel is terrible now. last time i watched it — must be 5 or 6 years ago now — it was already pretty bad, but at least there was a 50-50 chance of catching a documentary about tanks, they re-ran them so often. (~_^) now i don’t think they even have those anymore.

    @ihtg – “The most hardcore rightwing show (essentially fascist in many ways) that I can think of was HBO’s Rome.”

    never watched any of it, altho it would be the sort of thing that would appeal to me (not the fascist part [i don’t think (~_^)], but the fact that it was an historical-drama show). maybe i’ll have to get it on dvd. is it worth paying $$ for?

    imho, tho, anybody who makes a show about ancient rome will have a hard time beating “I, Claudius.” (^_^)

    @ihtg – “John ‘Walter Sobchak’ Milius”

    omg, he IS walter sobchak! (^_^)

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  5. @curt – “We are unequal in ability. We are unequal at birth. We remain unequal in life. The upper 10% do everything of value to humanity in life. The next 10% spread the upper 10%’s ideas. THe lower 80% reward the upper 20% for their efforts, and use the productivity of their betters to breed the civilization back into equliibrium.”

    can’t — and won’t — argue with anything there! up until the bit about “breed[ing] the civilization back into equilibrium”, that is. not sure what you meant by that. -??-

    btw, if you’ve never checked out neuropolitics.org, i think you might find it interesting. you need to poke around the site a bit to get the gist of what the authors are saying (iow, don’t just read the first article that you find there). dunno if what they’re suggesting is right or not, but i think they are on to something in many of the points that they make.

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  6. RE: “Breeding back into equilibrium”
    Means that increases in productivity are temporary and eventually offset by consumption by increases in population which in turn requires further increases in production.

    Thank you for the pointer to neuropolitics.org.

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  7. is it worth paying $$ for?

    Yes. To put things in perspective, if you like that sort of stuff – it was after seeing Rome that I became 100% certain that there would one day be a “Game of Thrones” show on HBO.

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  8. @ihtg – ok! i’ll put “Rome” on my wish-list to santa — hopefully he’ll be good to me this year. after all, i’ve been so good this year! (no, really! i have! i swear! oh, maybe i shouldn’t swear ’cause that’s not so good….) (^_^)

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  9. @HBD Chick

    You mentioned in your previous post about “boob (?!) tube” that you don’t like reality shows. I used to be like that too, hating those shows, considering them to be a complete waste of time. More recently, however, I have started to watch “Robinson-ekspedisjonen” (the Norwegian version of “Survivor”) from time to time. This is definitely the best reality show, the other ones are too silly for me. I watch this show because, come to think of it, unlike other TV shows, there’s no way a show like this can be politically correct. A good reality show shows people doing what people do. There’s a group of very different people, they’re stuck with each other on some desolate island, there’s a huge price which everyone wants…they form aliances, they stab each other in the back, they go behind the bushes and have sex…a good reality show is like one of those documentaries on the Discovery Channel with elephants, lions or sharks – only that it has humans instead of elephants, lions and sharks!

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  10. Heh, and if you, like me, have slight misanthropic tendencies, you are going to hate most of the contestants – which makes it even more fun! Especially when something bad happens, or they fight or get upset. That’s when I reach for the popcorn.

    When I watch reality shows, I always cheer for the contestant with the most cynical and immoral behavior. I call him (its always a him) the crocodile of the show.

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  11. @crassus – “…a good reality show is like one of those documentaries on the Discovery Channel with elephants, lions or sharks – only that it has humans instead of elephants, lions and sharks!”

    (^_^)

    if you think about it, reality shows really should be on the discovery channel or animal planet! they’re just documentaries of how humans behave, after all. a kind of biology/nature program (especially if there’s mating involved!).

    onestdv had a post a while ago about how he thought reality shows were good anthropological viewing. i can’t remember if he said he enjoyed them or not (i’m pretty sure he said not), but he thought it was a good idea that we a-normals watch them just to see what the majority is watching and doing and thinks is reasonable behavior.

    i can appreciate the thinking, but i’d still rather watch the elephants, lions or sharks. (~_^)

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  12. Seems like sex difference to some extent.

    Kind of fits with my preconceptions though of the paradigmatic Liberal and Conservative personalities:

    Conservatives – True grit. Conscientiousness. Unimaginative mainly in that “Life’s not about overthinking or overfeeling things in a way that inteferes with living and makes it hard to do what needs to be done.”. Harder on themselves and other people in more or less even handed ways. Adhere to traditional values because they’re dutiful and because they expect others and themselves to put up with a little pain find the Utilitarian (in the John Mill sense) rhetoric used to tear down traditional values less convincing.

    Liberals – Imaginative in that they’re interested in feelings and ideas without any real concern for the actual utility of those ideas or their utility towards their responsibilities. Interested in other people’s pain (more than actually doing anything about it) and sympathetic because they’re softer and gentler on themselves as well. Don’t ever sweat the costs of helping people out (or helping themselves out) because of a low sense of responsibility “Someone else rich will pay! And you shouldn’t worry about whether its fair for them to pay, because the rich are the ones who will pay and they owe you.”.

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  13. @crassus – “‘boob (?!) tube'”

    heh. yeah, that’s a funny expression, isn’t it? (^_^)

    aside from the meaning with which you’re probably familiar, “boob” can also mean a stupid person.

    and, as television makes one stupid, it became known as the “boob tube” — from the days when tvs had tubes in ’em. dunno who coined the term.

    so, it’s got nothing to do with boobs — unless you happen to be watching the playboy channel. (~_^)

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  14. @matt – “Liberals – Imaginative in that they’re interested in feelings and ideas without any real concern for the actual utility of those ideas….”

    ain’t that the truth?!

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  15. +1 vote for “Rome,” all-time fave show and previous fave was “I, Claudius.”

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  16. @g.w. – “+1 vote for ‘Rome,’ all-time fave show and previous fave was ‘I, Claudius.'”

    well, ok, then! note to self: revise e-mail to santa….

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  17. I’ve heard knitting is quite popular among nerd women. Sort of the female equivalent of the orientation towards objects that leads men to be into mechanical things.

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  18. @anonymous – “Sort of the female equivalent of the orientation towards objects that leads men to be into mechanical things.”

    absolutely. you really have to be able to think in 3D — not so much as when you’re designing a space shuttle obviously, but more so than your average bear. (^_^) at least once you move past knitting a basic scarf, that is.

    my husband also jokes about knitting patterns as being the nerd girls’ coding. it really is! example (this is only a part — the heel — of these awesome socks):

    Row 1 [RS]: Using CC1, k37. Turn work.
    Row 2 [WS]: Yo, p36. Turn work.
    Row 3 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k34 using MC. Turn work.
    Row 4 [WS]: Yo, p34. Turn work.
    Row 5 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k32 using CC1. Turn work.
    Row 6 [WS]: Yo, p32. Turn work.
    Row 7 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k30 using MC. Turn work.
    Row 8 [WS]: Yo, p30. Turn work.
    Row 9 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k28 using CC1. Turn work.
    Row 10 [WS]: Yo, p28. Turn work.
    Row 11 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k26 using MC. Turn work.
    Row 12 [WS]: Yo, p26. Turn work.
    Row 13 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k24 using CC1. Turn work.
    Row 14 [WS]: Yo, p24. Turn work.
    Row 15 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k22 using MC. Turn work.
    Row 16 [WS]: Yo, p22. Turn work.
    Row 17 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k20 using CC1. Turn work.
    Row 18 [WS]: Yo, p20. Turn work.
    Row 19 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k18 using MC. Turn work.
    Row 20 [WS]: Yo, p18. Turn work.
    Row 21 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k16 using CC1. Turn work.
    Row 22 [WS]: Yo, p16. Turn work.
    Row 23 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k15 using MC. Turn work.
    Row 24 [WS]: Yo, p16, SSP. The [yo] at the turning point of the previous short row has been worked together with the following stitch. Turn work.
    Row 25 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k16 using CC1, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 26 [WS]: Yo, p18, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 27 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k18 using MC, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 28 [WS]: Yo, p20, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 29 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k20 using CC1, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 30 [WS]: Yo, p22, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 31 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k22 using MC, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 32 [WS]: Yo, p24, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 33 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k24 using CC1, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 34 [WS]: Yo, p26, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 35 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k26 using MC, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 36 [WS]: Yo, p28, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 37 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k28 using CC1, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 38 [WS]: Yo, p30, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 39 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k30 using MC, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 40 [WS]: Yo, p32, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 41 [RS]: Yo, k1 using MC, k32 using CC1, SSk3tog. Turn work.
    Row 42 [WS]: Yo, p34, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 43 [RS]: Yo, k1 using CC1, k34 using MC, SSk3tog. Break CC1. Turn work.
    Row 44 [WS]: Yo, p36, SSp3tog. Turn work.
    Row 45 [RS]: K37, SSk3tog. All sts have been worked.

    heh!

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