civic societies

**update below.**

in “Making Democracy Work: Civic Traditions in Modern Italy,” putnam, et. al., measured the civic-ness of italians (north and south) by looking at how many people in each region belonged to voluntary associations — charity groups, lions clubs, hiking clubs, etc., etc.

such questions were asked in the 2005-08 wave of the world values survey:

“Now I am going to read out a list of voluntary organizations; for each one, could you tell me whether you are a member, an active member, an inactive member or not a member of that type of organization?

– Church or religious organization
– Sport or recreation organization
– Art, music or educational organization
– Labour union
– Political party
– Environmental organization
– Professional association
– Charitable organization
– Any other voluntary organization”

here’s the data for a whole bunch of countries: the anglo-world, the french + the germanics (i never know what to do with the french!), southern europe, eastern europe, the muslim world (well, middle east + maghreb), and east/southeast asia. haven’t done africa or latin america yet. i’ve only included the percentages of respondents who said they were active members. (yes, some of the data is prolly skewed ’cause of large-ish immigrant populations in some countries.)

first, the averages for each region. sports really is the new religion:

the anglo world — most civic. i’ve highlighted the u.s. just ’cause i’m an americun:

western europe, i.e. the french and a bunch of the germanics. pretty civic, especially the swiss:

southern europe – italy not very civic. but we already knew that:

eastern europe – not very civic at all. but the finns don’t really belong there – they’re pretty civic:

east and southeast asians? more civic than eastern europeans on average. go indonesia!:

muslim countries (middle east + maghreb)? civics FAIL. iranians (prolly persians) make a decent showing:

update 11/26: here are the tables for africa, latin america, and india (all on its lonesome). i’m impressed with the figures for the african nations surveyed — pretty gosh-durned civic! kudos to them for giving a f*ck. i thought mali was pretty interesting — they also scored high on a couple of the trust questions:

the latin americans — kinda average, really. i highlighted mexico ’cause we got a lot o’ mexicans in the u.s. their scores are quite respectable really:

all i’ve got for south asia is india. indians are all about politics, apparently (right after religion):

another update 11/26: see also civic societies ii

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7 Comments

  1. – Church or religious organization
    No, but looking for a church CambriaWillNotYield could appreciate.
    – Sport or recreation organization
    No.
    – Art, music or educational organization
    No.
    – Labour union
    No.
    – Political party
    Yes, but then there is really no choice in the USA.
    – Environmental organization
    No.
    – Professional association
    Yes. Not actively.
    – Charitable organization
    Not any more, looking for another.
    – Any other voluntary organization”
    Yes.

    I choose to associate with by choice which is why I have so little association with other people here in Chicago. If a person buys something because so-and-so wore it, whether male or female, I am not likely to associate with them. I have a very low opinion of conspicuous consumption. I am also not likely to associate with anyone who can’t spell conspicuous consumption.

    Which brings me to something else. The popularity of yoga among white females. I was thinking about this on the walk home the other day after somebody told me to take a yoga class to meet females – I said no I don’t want to meet those types of females. Why do I despise the yoga-takers? Because only activity they do is one with questionable health benefits but that requires them to conspicuously carry a yoga mat to the gym to announce to all that they do yoga, just like Lady GagGag and Gwenneth Paltrow.

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  2. @rjp – “I am also not likely to associate with anyone who can’t spell conspicuous consumption.”

    heh. (^_^)

    @rjp – “I was thinking about this on the walk home the other day after somebody told me to take a yoga class to meet females – I said no I don’t want to meet those types of females.”

    oh, god, no. don’t take yoga! yoga is stupid. (except for the warrior pose which is kinda cool. (~_^) )

    if you’re not opposed to dancing (which i know a lot of guys unfortunately are), go take some swing classes — or, better yet, go to a club where they’ve got a swing night (no, NOT swingers!) with a class at the start of the evening. you’ll meet lots o’ females there, i promise you. (^_^)

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  3. That’s a good idea if I can find a swing class and a place with a swing night. Hopefully swing isn’t property of the hipsters.

    I tried looking for country music / dancing but in the City of Chicago the only bars that feature that type of music and dancing are gay — and gay bar in the City of Chicago means only 50% bathhouse as opposed to full fledged bathhouse.

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  4. @rjp – “Hopefully swing isn’t property of the hipsters.”

    ehhhhh – hope not. it wasn’t when i was “in the scene” — it was mostly dorky people who liked old-fashioned music and dancing. but there were a few hipsters around here and there (people who liked to wear rockabilly clothes, etc.), so … dunno. good luck!

    @rjp – “I tried looking for country music / dancing but in the City of Chicago the only bars that feature that type of music and dancing are gay….”

    o.m.g.

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