the viagra war?

this is pretty bizarre if (IF) it’s true:

Gaddafi ‘supplies troops with Viagra to encourage mass rape’, claims diplomat

“US ambassador Susan Rice has also said, without offering evidence, that Iran was helping Syria to suppress dissent

“One of America’s most senior diplomats claimed at the United Nations security council that Muammar Gaddafi is supplying his troops with Viagra to encourage mass rape, according to diplomats.

“Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN made the claim while accusing Gaddafi of numerous human rights abuses. Earlier in the week Rice also claimed, without offering any evidence, that Iran is helping Syria suppress internal dissent.

“Foreign affairs specialists expressed scepticism about both claims.

“The Viagra claim surfaced in an al-Jazeera report last month from Libya-based doctors who said they had found Viagra in the pockets of pro-Gaddafi soldiers. But it is a jump from that to suggesting Gaddafi is supplying troops with it to encourage mass rape….”

people talk about rape during war as a weapon (pretty right) used to terrorize populations. eh. yeah, i guess hoardes of men entering your town and raping and pillaging everyone|thing in sight would be terrorizing, but i think (of course) the real reason for rape during wartime is more fundamental than even that.

what’s war all about? eliminating your competitors, i.e. competitors for resources. how do you eliminate them? well, killing them for one. you can also try to replace their genes by impregnating the women of whatever population you’re fighting. then you reduce the mating opportunities for the guys in that other group (’cause all their women are now pregnant) AND you increase your own reproduction rate. it’s a win-win situation!

also, i would think some really strong reproductive urges kick in when you’re at war. your genes are prolly “thinking”: sh*t. we could be dead any second now! better mate!

rape during human wars is kinda like my favorite example of male lions taking over a pride: they kill (or try to kill) the current males in the pride, kill all the young uns, and then mate with all the females. reproductive success! it’s all that matters.

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  1. I think there’s a lot of truth in this especially in male populations where there’s very little restraint to start with.

    “sh*t. we could be dead any second now! better mate!”

    This also happens in any dangerous situation, or just afterwards. It might even happen after scary films?

    For male populations with a lot of restraint i wouldn’t be surprised that if they need to generate a chemical to suppress fear and/or reluctance to kill before a battle then that same chemical will still be in place after the fighting is over and have a similar effect.

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  2. According to Richard Wrangham there were 200k to 400k done by Paki forces against Bangladesh, which wanted independence. If I recall from reading ‘Demonic Males’ this morning.

    The Japs did approximately 10x less than that – at Nanjing anyway.

    I agree, it’s military terror as well as an individual strategy for fitness enhancement.

    I agree with things like ‘evo-feminism’ that biologically analyze male violence and seek to mitigate it. (Even evo-feminism’s postulates could be taken too far, but I don’t think they have been so far. Literally any postulate can be taken too far.) Here we have a normative movement that recognizes facts. I like that. I also like ‘feminist virtue ethics’ which apparently believes in ‘essentialist’ statistical gender differences (gasp) and wants to increase laudation of feminine virtues. Obviously this could also (potentially) be taken to far.

    Personally I believe eugenics and geo-separation are the most effective ways to mitigate the drives that cause race wars. Which is pretty much the main kind of wars there is. Dysgenics and the geo-mixing we see today are the way to cause major race wars which include mass rape.

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  3. “I agree with things like ‘evo-feminism’ that biologically analyze male violence and seek to mitigate it.”

    This to me is the point. If you can get down to the base mechanisms then you can mitigate them.

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  4. Actually viagra would make the male violence stuff worse.

    Viagra inhibits the phosphodiesterase 5 that cleaves the cGMP that relaxes smooth muscle that makes boners. That cGMP is made by NO activating sGC. When PDE5 is inhibited, there is feedback inhibition of nitric oxide synthase so less NO is produced. That NO does other things that are not mediated via sGC and cGMP, so those pathways don’t get activated as much.

    NO activates other things during and after sex, feelings of beneficence and affection for example and also activates the pathways of bonding. Men jazzed up on viagra will have less feelings of affection than men who are not jazzed up on viagra.

    I posted the earlier one but thought it had been blocked so I expanded on it a little.

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